Even when I was a dub I could never see the benefit of these nuts protesting as it just shows them as being crazier then the cult they are protesting. One bunch of nuts protesting another bunch of nuts.
William Penwell
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JWs Demonstrating against the Demonstrators
by Listener inthe organization never ceases to amaze.you've got to see this video for yourself so i won't say much about it.
i wonder if this practice has been endorsed and sanctioned by the governing body and if we will see more of it in the future.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbuxbx1ktci.
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Bethel downsizing is still coming
by dropoffyourkeylee ini spoke with a bethelite (non-us) last week who says that a 20-25% downsize is coming at their bethel in the fall of 2016. this is in addition to the cutbacks of 2015. more will be sent out 'to the field'..
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William Penwell
Not pumping out the same amount of literature and books they once published has really put a dint in the over all scale of the world wide operations.
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How long can this cult remain with only kids becoming members?
by Crazyguy init's become clear that very few from outside the religion are joining anymore.
if only the kids of the people that are already in are the one replacing the members as they die off and 50% let's say of the kids leave then how long can they realistically last before the downturn becomes obvious?.
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William Penwell
I think that a lot of JWs go along with the broad focus of the organization (because they are not inclined toward or do not know other worldviews), but they don't go near the detail of what's expected. So, it's not exactly intentional or passive-aggressive but more allowing themselves to not be as "strict" as they are required to be. I used to notice this tendency at social functions even with fellow JWs where you'd swear you were at a "worldly" get-together because people were having a good time and no one was talking about "spiritual" things. There's quite a disconnect among JWs - they don't even realize they're doing it but it reflects a dwindling "zeal" for following the organization to the letter.
I haven't being to a JW social function in some time but things I have seen on here in some ways they have lightened up on practices that used to be labelled as "worldly" are now acceptable. For instance old Freddy Franz would be rolling in his grave to think they allow "worldly" music in a KH, like a video I watched on here some time ago.
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Jehovah's Witnesses new world HQ nearly complete. From The Chronicle.
by ToesUp inwarwick article.
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William Penwell
I remember growing up my brother and myself were wanting to join the Boy Scouts as a "worldly" friend of ours was one. That was a big fat NO by my mother as per borg detective.
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Jehovah's Witnesses new world HQ nearly complete. From The Chronicle.
by ToesUp inwarwick article.
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William Penwell
Is this going to replace all of the Brooklyn facilities? It does not look big enough. I thought they were winding everything down for the last days, why start all this new building work?
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Supreme Court Of Russia bans Jehovah's Witnesses as an 'extremist organization'
by EdenOne inread the news here.
the jehovah's witnesses lost their appeal to the supreme court of russia.
bethel to be liquidated.. i bet the gb saw this coming ... here comes the persecution complex paranoia.
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William Penwell
I have always said once a suppressive society always a suppressive society. It has nothing to do with their political affiliation.
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Is shunning unscriptual?
by MrTheocratic ininternational version 1 cor 5:11. but now i am writing to you that you must not associate with anyone who claims to be a brother or sister but is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or slanderer, a drunkard or swindler.
do not even eat with such people.. if shunning is wrong.
.how does one explain this scripture?.
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William Penwell
There is a bit of conflict here as Jesus taught that we must love our neighbour as ourselves but then the WT practices shunning which is based on conditional love.
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Will the talk where They say treat inactive ones as apostates back fire?
by Crazyguy ina few years ago they had a similar talk and my mother stopped talking to my sister.
after a few weeks the sister called and when mom told her my sister said but i love your my mother.
something to that effect.
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William Penwell
Well if my relatives they try this on me, then I consider it no loss. The alienation of the members of a dysfunctional, conditional love, hypocritical organization does not bother me. I have lots of friends outside of this WT cult that I do not need or seek their approval. Seems to me that over the years there are a number of the relatives that treat me differently if I ever run into them, so be it.
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Former Jehovah's Witness admits: We targeted grief-stricken as 'ripe fruit'
by Londo111 inhttp://www.stuff.co.nz/dominion-post/news/80708572/former-jehovahs-witness-admits-we-targeted-grief-stricken-as-ripe-fruit.
jehovah's witnesses target grief and see the recently bereaved as "ripe fruit" for conversion, a former elder of the faith says.. vince and michele tylor​ spoke out after reading the story of wellington woman jean sergent-shadbolt, who received a handwritten letter from a jehovah's witness three months to the day after her step-cousin, friend and flatmate died.. a current senior elder of the faith says it has no policy to target grieving, and those who do so are acting on their own initiative.
however, he concedes such people may feel guided by jehovah's witness literature.. but vince tylor said he knew of members who would trawl though obituaries to find grieving people, or visit cemeteries.. "not only do we see watchtower printed material suggesting and supporting writing letters from obituaries such as what jean received, but we even have reports and articles of encouragement for jws to go to cemeteries to look for people as well.".
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William Penwell
I am not trying to defend the WT but I recall a number of years ago how some sister got my ex wife to go through the news paper obituary and write to people who had just lost a loved one. After one elder told my ex that this was frowned on by the WT but then like everything else when it comes to the WT, it is possible their policies have changed on this issue.
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WILL this be New Light? Is the Watchtower preparing to say out loud, Jesus is Jehovah?
by Terry inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vk7ertncbsk
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William Penwell
Jesus if he existed, was only some local Jewish shaman anyway. The whole god thing was added on hundreds of years after the fact.